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		<title>By: Christopher Colvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Colvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Smalls,

I hope you like tar and feathers.  When are you politicians going to learn that taxing the populace to death will hurt your organization more than helping it.  May I make a  suggestion Mr. Smalls?  Cut the waste!  I&#039;m still astonished at the GoG street widening between Intel and Agilent.  Those parking lots are almost empty.  Why did you spend that money.  It could have gone elsewhere.

If the Pro-Rodeo Hall of Fame threatens to move, let them.  If the USOC threatens to move, let them.  Colorado Springs had an identity before they arrived here, and will continue to have an identity after they move.  Quit greasing their palms.  Attract more primary industry to move here.  People will  have jobs, they&#039;ll start spending again, and sales tax revenues will increase.  I like Jon&#039;s idea of setting up a rainy day fund.  Just don&#039;t attack it for a pet project.  Use it for times when revenues are down.

As Mr. Dierdorff says, you need to be a good steward with the money.  I understand the need for taxes to pay for necessary services.  Just cut the pork!  Don&#039;t penalize the producers.

Do what the population has to do when money becomes short.  Cut back spending.  That should be evident to  you by virtue of the fact that sales tax revenues are down.  If you push this proposal through, you can rest assured I&#039;ll be organizing a recall.

Christopher Colvin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Smalls,</p>
<p>I hope you like tar and feathers.  When are you politicians going to learn that taxing the populace to death will hurt your organization more than helping it.  May I make a  suggestion Mr. Smalls?  Cut the waste!  I&#8217;m still astonished at the GoG street widening between Intel and Agilent.  Those parking lots are almost empty.  Why did you spend that money.  It could have gone elsewhere.</p>
<p>If the Pro-Rodeo Hall of Fame threatens to move, let them.  If the USOC threatens to move, let them.  Colorado Springs had an identity before they arrived here, and will continue to have an identity after they move.  Quit greasing their palms.  Attract more primary industry to move here.  People will  have jobs, they&#8217;ll start spending again, and sales tax revenues will increase.  I like Jon&#8217;s idea of setting up a rainy day fund.  Just don&#8217;t attack it for a pet project.  Use it for times when revenues are down.</p>
<p>As Mr. Dierdorff says, you need to be a good steward with the money.  I understand the need for taxes to pay for necessary services.  Just cut the pork!  Don&#8217;t penalize the producers.</p>
<p>Do what the population has to do when money becomes short.  Cut back spending.  That should be evident to  you by virtue of the fact that sales tax revenues are down.  If you push this proposal through, you can rest assured I&#8217;ll be organizing a recall.</p>
<p>Christopher Colvin</p>
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		<title>By: FactFinder</title>
		<link>http://csbj.com/2009/07/03/small-proposes-big-tax-hike/comment-page-1/#comment-3411</link>
		<dc:creator>FactFinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For years this City and it&#039;s employees have strived to get paid at levels comparable to the private sector.  Of course, this meant dazzling pay raises.  Then they wanted to get paid based on the highest pay in the land, and went nationwide to find high pay.  More raises. Then they wanted to &quot;retire&quot; and get rehired while collecting their pensions. More raises.  All this happened under Small and Rivera&#039;s &quot;leadership.&quot;  

Well, if you want to get paid like the private sector, then you have to participate in BOTH the upswings and the downswings.  If you get paid MORE than the private sector, then the declines will be more painful as the system absorbs the stunning over payments.   Nepotism just makes it worse.  

Most of the private sector here is experiencing 30-40% declines in business and income. Some businesses are faring far worse than that.  If the City wants to get paid like the private sector, then they get to participate completely, up and down.  It is distinctly unfair to assume that city employees are more &quot;important&quot; than the private sector citizens.  And based on the paylevels at the top of the city and CS Utilities, an across the board pay cut of 40% would still leave them among the highest paid employers here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years this City and it&#8217;s employees have strived to get paid at levels comparable to the private sector.  Of course, this meant dazzling pay raises.  Then they wanted to get paid based on the highest pay in the land, and went nationwide to find high pay.  More raises. Then they wanted to &#8220;retire&#8221; and get rehired while collecting their pensions. More raises.  All this happened under Small and Rivera&#8217;s &#8220;leadership.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Well, if you want to get paid like the private sector, then you have to participate in BOTH the upswings and the downswings.  If you get paid MORE than the private sector, then the declines will be more painful as the system absorbs the stunning over payments.   Nepotism just makes it worse.  </p>
<p>Most of the private sector here is experiencing 30-40% declines in business and income. Some businesses are faring far worse than that.  If the City wants to get paid like the private sector, then they get to participate completely, up and down.  It is distinctly unfair to assume that city employees are more &#8220;important&#8221; than the private sector citizens.  And based on the paylevels at the top of the city and CS Utilities, an across the board pay cut of 40% would still leave them among the highest paid employers here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My main objection is that this proposal shifts the burden of taxes to fewer people. Renters likely won&#039;t have to pay this tax increase (or not all of it) depending on market conditions.  Supply and demand determines rental prices, and if demand is less than supply, landlords wont&#039; be able to pass on increased property taxes to their renters. This will place more negative pressure on the housing market as buying and renting could become much less attractive. Investors may flee. Also, this will put permanent negative pressure on the commercial real estate market. 

Finally, people visiting Colorado Springs will get a sales tax break because the residents will have more of the burden.  

In a recession, everyone suffers, but somehow the City Council doesn&#039;t think it has to suffer - just the peons that voted for them should.  Create a rainy day fund and fund it at a higher level to better weather ups and downs. And stop whining!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main objection is that this proposal shifts the burden of taxes to fewer people. Renters likely won&#8217;t have to pay this tax increase (or not all of it) depending on market conditions.  Supply and demand determines rental prices, and if demand is less than supply, landlords wont&#8217; be able to pass on increased property taxes to their renters. This will place more negative pressure on the housing market as buying and renting could become much less attractive. Investors may flee. Also, this will put permanent negative pressure on the commercial real estate market. </p>
<p>Finally, people visiting Colorado Springs will get a sales tax break because the residents will have more of the burden.  </p>
<p>In a recession, everyone suffers, but somehow the City Council doesn&#8217;t think it has to suffer &#8211; just the peons that voted for them should.  Create a rainy day fund and fund it at a higher level to better weather ups and downs. And stop whining!</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Dierdorff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Dierdorff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a republican I am not opposed to taxes, just opposed to taxes for tax sake.  Our city population claims to be moderate (overall) republican yet votes libertarian and opposes any tax increases period.  Mr. Small, I will support your tax increase but I need to see the city operate more like a business and not an ever growing entity that costs more while continuing to deliver less.

The city needs to be a better steward of our tax dollars, absolutely.  For instance, how much duplicate efforts/spending are there between the city and El Paso County?  Couldn&#039;t some of the administration of local services be combined as a way to save money?  The city just spent a ton of money on a new data center that could have been outsourced for less.

I am willing to pay more, but I&#039;d better see a return this time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a republican I am not opposed to taxes, just opposed to taxes for tax sake.  Our city population claims to be moderate (overall) republican yet votes libertarian and opposes any tax increases period.  Mr. Small, I will support your tax increase but I need to see the city operate more like a business and not an ever growing entity that costs more while continuing to deliver less.</p>
<p>The city needs to be a better steward of our tax dollars, absolutely.  For instance, how much duplicate efforts/spending are there between the city and El Paso County?  Couldn&#8217;t some of the administration of local services be combined as a way to save money?  The city just spent a ton of money on a new data center that could have been outsourced for less.</p>
<p>I am willing to pay more, but I&#8217;d better see a return this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s all we need is another &quot;Stormwater Enterprise&quot; which is a euphemism for &quot;More Taxes&quot;.
I really believe sometimes that our city &#039;overseers&#039; think their primary duty is to spend more than they collect and then find other creative ways to extract it from the citizenry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s all we need is another &#8220;Stormwater Enterprise&#8221; which is a euphemism for &#8220;More Taxes&#8221;.<br />
I really believe sometimes that our city &#8216;overseers&#8217; think their primary duty is to spend more than they collect and then find other creative ways to extract it from the citizenry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Karber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Karber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave A. has his numbers wrong, and while &quot;Gammy Sparkles&quot; is right about the Dems being in control at the Federal and State level, they don&#039;t control  our local issues. The bottem line is Colorado Springs has the lowest property tax rate along the Front Range and even with this increase, would still have that honor. Unless and until we can get beyond this mentality that all government is wasteful and excessive, we are going to see our streets and infrastructure decline and our quality of life erode. This area has charm because the early city fathers had the foresite to plan and invest well.  I don&#039;t like taxes any better than the next guy and annually pay in the low 6 figures. I would love nothing more than to see my Federal taxes go down and local go up a modest amount where I might see a little more benefit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave A. has his numbers wrong, and while &#8220;Gammy Sparkles&#8221; is right about the Dems being in control at the Federal and State level, they don&#8217;t control  our local issues. The bottem line is Colorado Springs has the lowest property tax rate along the Front Range and even with this increase, would still have that honor. Unless and until we can get beyond this mentality that all government is wasteful and excessive, we are going to see our streets and infrastructure decline and our quality of life erode. This area has charm because the early city fathers had the foresite to plan and invest well.  I don&#8217;t like taxes any better than the next guy and annually pay in the low 6 figures. I would love nothing more than to see my Federal taxes go down and local go up a modest amount where I might see a little more benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Gammy Sparkles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gammy Sparkles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God Help us all, the Democrats are in power, and as usual, don&#039;t run businesses well, ala Fannie/Freddie and on. Lowering taxes, suring the real estate market, and quit passing ridiculous wasteful bills.  Wow what a concept.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Help us all, the Democrats are in power, and as usual, don&#8217;t run businesses well, ala Fannie/Freddie and on. Lowering taxes, suring the real estate market, and quit passing ridiculous wasteful bills.  Wow what a concept.</p>
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		<title>By: David A</title>
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		<dc:creator>David A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BAD IDEA!!!  This proposal would increase my city taxes from $205.37 to $1428.97.   I am sure Larry thinks it is great as his city taxes would increase from $41.00 to $290.00.  Another idea would be to put on an increase but to put a ceiling on it so it would not be so devastating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BAD IDEA!!!  This proposal would increase my city taxes from $205.37 to $1428.97.   I am sure Larry thinks it is great as his city taxes would increase from $41.00 to $290.00.  Another idea would be to put on an increase but to put a ceiling on it so it would not be so devastating.</p>
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