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	<title>Comments on: Fischer to challenge COPs</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Lowery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Lowery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to add that if this OTC deal is so near and dear to the hearts of City Council, they should sell Memorial Hospital to pay for it.   Timing is perfect because if this looming  ObamaCare is enacted, Memorial will be receiving $29.95 per patient per day and will be little more than a warehouse for the impoverished and  indigent sick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to add that if this OTC deal is so near and dear to the hearts of City Council, they should sell Memorial Hospital to pay for it.   Timing is perfect because if this looming  ObamaCare is enacted, Memorial will be receiving $29.95 per patient per day and will be little more than a warehouse for the impoverished and  indigent sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lowery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Lowery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lindsay Fischer is on the right track.    While I support the Olympics in principle,  every two years they make multi-millionaires out of a few sports superstars.   Why can&#039;t they go back to those they have made rich and ask for a few hundred thousand from each of them?

The City Council on one hand can&#039;t plead poverty with lots of layoffs and on the other commit to all of these millions in future payments.    What if Focus or other non-profits threaten to leave?   What then? 

The developer could not come up with $16M so the deal fell through.   Any legal challenge to the City has to fall back on that fact, and not any City negligence.   Council and the City attorneys should have the guts to ride out the legal action, if any.  

And where are the moving vans from Chicago?   One would think they would have arrived and be waiting at the loading docks for the deal to fall through.  No, likely the Chicago deal was a bluff.   The OTC top honchos certainly won&#039;t last long commuting to work in the -17f  Windy City winters, nor will the atheletes last long training a few hundred feet above sea level. 

Everybody would like to have the OTC stay, but the Economic Development folks have not been able to put any real jobs in Colorado Springs since the telcom boom fell apart in 2001, unless you consider telemarketing a real job.   Let&#039;s face it, Colorado Springs is well on it&#039;s way to becoming a one-horse town again, the U.S. is well on it&#039;s way to becoming the planet&#039;s biggest debtor nation, so let&#039;s learn to live on a one-horse budget.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsay Fischer is on the right track.    While I support the Olympics in principle,  every two years they make multi-millionaires out of a few sports superstars.   Why can&#8217;t they go back to those they have made rich and ask for a few hundred thousand from each of them?</p>
<p>The City Council on one hand can&#8217;t plead poverty with lots of layoffs and on the other commit to all of these millions in future payments.    What if Focus or other non-profits threaten to leave?   What then? </p>
<p>The developer could not come up with $16M so the deal fell through.   Any legal challenge to the City has to fall back on that fact, and not any City negligence.   Council and the City attorneys should have the guts to ride out the legal action, if any.  </p>
<p>And where are the moving vans from Chicago?   One would think they would have arrived and be waiting at the loading docks for the deal to fall through.  No, likely the Chicago deal was a bluff.   The OTC top honchos certainly won&#8217;t last long commuting to work in the -17f  Windy City winters, nor will the atheletes last long training a few hundred feet above sea level. </p>
<p>Everybody would like to have the OTC stay, but the Economic Development folks have not been able to put any real jobs in Colorado Springs since the telcom boom fell apart in 2001, unless you consider telemarketing a real job.   Let&#8217;s face it, Colorado Springs is well on it&#8217;s way to becoming a one-horse town again, the U.S. is well on it&#8217;s way to becoming the planet&#8217;s biggest debtor nation, so let&#8217;s learn to live on a one-horse budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Burns</title>
		<link>http://csbj.com/2009/08/05/fischer-to-challenge-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-5045</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boy, can you imagine what a cool rugby stadium we could have for $50 million?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, can you imagine what a cool rugby stadium we could have for $50 million?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a point of clarification – though Lindsay Fischer has represented Ron Johnson on an unrelated issue, Mr. Johnson is not involved with the recent brief prepared by Mr. Fischer challenging the legality of the certificates of participation the city plans to use. Mr. Johnson, privately, as well as Central Bancorp are strong proponents of the USOC headquarters staying in Colorado Springs. We realize the unique benefits and honor of having this group here in our community. 
 
- Jill Johnson, Director of Marketing, Central Bancorp]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a point of clarification – though Lindsay Fischer has represented Ron Johnson on an unrelated issue, Mr. Johnson is not involved with the recent brief prepared by Mr. Fischer challenging the legality of the certificates of participation the city plans to use. Mr. Johnson, privately, as well as Central Bancorp are strong proponents of the USOC headquarters staying in Colorado Springs. We realize the unique benefits and honor of having this group here in our community. </p>
<p>- Jill Johnson, Director of Marketing, Central Bancorp</p>
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		<title>By: John Whitten</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Whitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Fischer appears to have recognized the deal as containing some provisions that would warm the cockles of any developers heart:  leverage exisitng properties for more money, structure the deal so there is no recourse, and then act like a big shot around town. (Unfortunately, a fairly typical MO for some of our local developers, including LandCo. It kind of looks like the Mayor learned some tricks from LandCo.)  Its even better if you can brag that  you saved the Olympic Rings from leaving town.  

There are some stand up people who are involved with this deal :Jim Johnson, Charles Emmer, Bill Hybl , amoung others.  Council and the Mayor don&#039;t deserve to be bailed out by the efforts of these folks.  

But, what do I know......I&#039;m just one of the  many unwashed and unbooted &quot;Ignorant Malcontents &quot;(aka Colorado Springs resident/taxpayer/voter...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Fischer appears to have recognized the deal as containing some provisions that would warm the cockles of any developers heart:  leverage exisitng properties for more money, structure the deal so there is no recourse, and then act like a big shot around town. (Unfortunately, a fairly typical MO for some of our local developers, including LandCo. It kind of looks like the Mayor learned some tricks from LandCo.)  Its even better if you can brag that  you saved the Olympic Rings from leaving town.  </p>
<p>There are some stand up people who are involved with this deal :Jim Johnson, Charles Emmer, Bill Hybl , amoung others.  Council and the Mayor don&#8217;t deserve to be bailed out by the efforts of these folks.  </p>
<p>But, what do I know&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;m just one of the  many unwashed and unbooted &#8220;Ignorant Malcontents &#8220;(aka Colorado Springs resident/taxpayer/voter&#8230;)</p>
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