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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for providing this interesting and amusing information. I found your comments about the Consumers&#039; Research Council of America as a part of my personal research into this group after I received notification that I had been chosen as one of &quot;America&#039;s Top Physicians.&quot;  Though it is interesting that you could put in your dog&#039;s name,  it would probably also be possible to put your dog&#039;s name on things that generally were considered more legitimate.  I doubt that a person could go through medical or accounting school using his dog&#039;s name, but I&#039;ll bet you could enroll a dog in many things that are offered over the internet and which are frequently taken in all seriousness by legitimate people. Six sigma courses, for example, are offered online. One just pays the money and takes the tests. You could enter any name in many of them. So the fact that you can do that with this organization does not totally prove that it is completely illegimitate. 

I searched to see if I could find many physicians who list this on their CV&#039;s. To my amazement, there are large numbers who list this. There are many faculty members at Harvard and Yale who have this on their list of honors. I was amazed to see this listed on the CV of a department chairman that I know. Another colleague, whom I know slightly, has posted a very long CV listing numerous legitimate accomplishments and his award as a &quot;Top Physician&quot; by the Consumers&#039; Research Council is in there with the rest.  In a listing by St. Jude&#039;s Hospital, (http://www.stjude.com/stjude/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=16b8fa3186e70110VgnVCM1000001e0215acRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=0f7d56c0df936110VgnVCM1000001e0215acRCRD) one can see many of honors from many physicians and scientists displayed on the same web page. One physician has listed his Nobel Prize. But on the same page, another fellow has his &quot;Top Physician&quot; award from the Consumers&#039; Research Council listed.  St. Judes apparently considers the Consumers&#039; Resesarch Council award fit to display on the same page as a Nobel Prize.

My guess is that whoever is making the list actually looks for people that seem qualified in some way. That is probably why you got one and why I did. All the people I found in my field who are displaying this honor seem to be pretty well qualified people but we should all have a healthy skepticism of all &quot;qualifications&quot; &quot;credentials&quot; and &quot;honors.&quot;  I agree with Chris above. Having a given degree (including a medical degree) does not mean that much by itself. Some fields such as medicine have succeeded better in walling themselves off from a lot of the competition from other quarters. CPA&#039;s don&#039;t do too badly in that respect either. I am sure you are better in financial planning than I am, but there could be a person without a college education at all that might be better at it. There could be a person with irregular medical credentials from another country that might be a better physician than I. In general, &quot;legitimate&quot; credentials are important for many things.  But it is good to be skeptical look at actual performance as best we can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for providing this interesting and amusing information. I found your comments about the Consumers&#8217; Research Council of America as a part of my personal research into this group after I received notification that I had been chosen as one of &#8220;America&#8217;s Top Physicians.&#8221;  Though it is interesting that you could put in your dog&#8217;s name,  it would probably also be possible to put your dog&#8217;s name on things that generally were considered more legitimate.  I doubt that a person could go through medical or accounting school using his dog&#8217;s name, but I&#8217;ll bet you could enroll a dog in many things that are offered over the internet and which are frequently taken in all seriousness by legitimate people. Six sigma courses, for example, are offered online. One just pays the money and takes the tests. You could enter any name in many of them. So the fact that you can do that with this organization does not totally prove that it is completely illegimitate. </p>
<p>I searched to see if I could find many physicians who list this on their CV&#8217;s. To my amazement, there are large numbers who list this. There are many faculty members at Harvard and Yale who have this on their list of honors. I was amazed to see this listed on the CV of a department chairman that I know. Another colleague, whom I know slightly, has posted a very long CV listing numerous legitimate accomplishments and his award as a &#8220;Top Physician&#8221; by the Consumers&#8217; Research Council is in there with the rest.  In a listing by St. Jude&#8217;s Hospital, (<a href="http://www.stjude.com/stjude/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=16b8fa3186e70110VgnVCM1000001e0215acRCRD&#038;vgnextchannel=0f7d56c0df936110VgnVCM1000001e0215acRCRD" rel="nofollow">http://www.stjude.com/stjude/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=16b8fa3186e70110VgnVCM1000001e0215acRCRD&#038;vgnextchannel=0f7d56c0df936110VgnVCM1000001e0215acRCRD</a>) one can see many of honors from many physicians and scientists displayed on the same web page. One physician has listed his Nobel Prize. But on the same page, another fellow has his &#8220;Top Physician&#8221; award from the Consumers&#8217; Research Council listed.  St. Judes apparently considers the Consumers&#8217; Resesarch Council award fit to display on the same page as a Nobel Prize.</p>
<p>My guess is that whoever is making the list actually looks for people that seem qualified in some way. That is probably why you got one and why I did. All the people I found in my field who are displaying this honor seem to be pretty well qualified people but we should all have a healthy skepticism of all &#8220;qualifications&#8221; &#8220;credentials&#8221; and &#8220;honors.&#8221;  I agree with Chris above. Having a given degree (including a medical degree) does not mean that much by itself. Some fields such as medicine have succeeded better in walling themselves off from a lot of the competition from other quarters. CPA&#8217;s don&#8217;t do too badly in that respect either. I am sure you are better in financial planning than I am, but there could be a person without a college education at all that might be better at it. There could be a person with irregular medical credentials from another country that might be a better physician than I. In general, &#8220;legitimate&#8221; credentials are important for many things.  But it is good to be skeptical look at actual performance as best we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://csbj.com/2009/08/06/2009-top-dog-in-financial-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-5005</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalpayday.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Financial planning &lt;/a&gt;is something that you must learn by trial and error in some cases. I am lucky to have a Finance degree, but it is still often hard for me to accurately set aside money for retirement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nationalpayday.com" rel="nofollow"> Financial planning </a>is something that you must learn by trial and error in some cases. I am lucky to have a Finance degree, but it is still often hard for me to accurately set aside money for retirement.</p>
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