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	<title>Comments on: City blows off proposal to save Pioneers Museum</title>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please consider re-opening our public restrooms in our city parks. I have seen tourists being toured without a place of relief. Vistors from all around America and other countries are one of our greatest sources of revenue...not only this...I believe we should provide relief for our residents, the elderly, our young and anyone in-between. 

The essentials must be in place to preserve the integrity of what Coloradans know how to do best, &quot;pull ourselves up by their bootstraps&quot; and &quot;make things work&#039;. The beauty of keeping Colorado Springs, recreational parks, discovery trails and essential visitor centers open are not luxuries, but venues of learning, healing and spiritual renewal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please consider re-opening our public restrooms in our city parks. I have seen tourists being toured without a place of relief. Vistors from all around America and other countries are one of our greatest sources of revenue&#8230;not only this&#8230;I believe we should provide relief for our residents, the elderly, our young and anyone in-between. </p>
<p>The essentials must be in place to preserve the integrity of what Coloradans know how to do best, &#8220;pull ourselves up by their bootstraps&#8221; and &#8220;make things work&#8217;. The beauty of keeping Colorado Springs, recreational parks, discovery trails and essential visitor centers open are not luxuries, but venues of learning, healing and spiritual renewal.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Herpin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Herpin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I persoanlly welcome the discussion with the BoCC to look at ways both the city and county can contribute to the operation of our community&#039;s Pioneers Museum.  This is a regional asset and its viability belongs to the entire community, not just Colorado Springs residents.  I think this is a great step toward more city-county cooperation and it should be looked at!

Bernie Herpin
Colorado Springs City Council]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I persoanlly welcome the discussion with the BoCC to look at ways both the city and county can contribute to the operation of our community&#8217;s Pioneers Museum.  This is a regional asset and its viability belongs to the entire community, not just Colorado Springs residents.  I think this is a great step toward more city-county cooperation and it should be looked at!</p>
<p>Bernie Herpin<br />
Colorado Springs City Council</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m grateful for Sallie Clark and others who know and appreciate the history of our town to keep the Pioneer Museum an icon for those seeking history and not office space. The Pioneer Museum is an asset to our children and to many memories for those who have made Colorado Springs their home. The Pioneer Museum  has documentation on display that helps the visitors know what our town is all about.    Can&#039;t our City Council look somewhere else to get funding instead of seeking out the history of our town to destroy and buidl fancier new buildings.  We are not a Denver nor are we built to be like California or New York.  We are a tourist town and people come here to enjoy history and our beautiful mountains and our children come back and bring their children here.  I think it is terrible that the City thinks they can hit our history to make progress successful with new developments and renovations that strip our heritage.  I think this decision should be on a vote that the citizens of Colorado Springs have the right to make a stand in what should be destroyed or renovated by scraping our history as a town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grateful for Sallie Clark and others who know and appreciate the history of our town to keep the Pioneer Museum an icon for those seeking history and not office space. The Pioneer Museum is an asset to our children and to many memories for those who have made Colorado Springs their home. The Pioneer Museum  has documentation on display that helps the visitors know what our town is all about.    Can&#8217;t our City Council look somewhere else to get funding instead of seeking out the history of our town to destroy and buidl fancier new buildings.  We are not a Denver nor are we built to be like California or New York.  We are a tourist town and people come here to enjoy history and our beautiful mountains and our children come back and bring their children here.  I think it is terrible that the City thinks they can hit our history to make progress successful with new developments and renovations that strip our heritage.  I think this decision should be on a vote that the citizens of Colorado Springs have the right to make a stand in what should be destroyed or renovated by scraping our history as a town.</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Springs Real Estate by Kathy Torline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colorado Springs Real Estate by Kathy Torline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s definitely a wonderful asset to the community; and I would hate to see it close.   I would hope that the city will look at all of their options, including the one from the County, before they make a decision on the Museum&#039;s future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely a wonderful asset to the community; and I would hate to see it close.   I would hope that the city will look at all of their options, including the one from the County, before they make a decision on the Museum&#8217;s future.</p>
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		<title>By: owleye</title>
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		<dc:creator>owleye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a snotty, haughty city spokesperson. I&#039;m going to look up her salary in the Gazette -- she makes too much for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a snotty, haughty city spokesperson. I&#8217;m going to look up her salary in the Gazette &#8212; she makes too much for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearl B4 Swine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearl B4 Swine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course they are dismissive...it&#039;s not their idea so it&#039;s not in their control.  The Museum is like the City&#039;s toy that they want to put up on the shelf and not play with anymore.  But if anyone else wants to play with it...whoa, watch it, mister.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they are dismissive&#8230;it&#8217;s not their idea so it&#8217;s not in their control.  The Museum is like the City&#8217;s toy that they want to put up on the shelf and not play with anymore.  But if anyone else wants to play with it&#8230;whoa, watch it, mister.</p>
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		<title>By: George James</title>
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		<dc:creator>George James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[During this time of revenue short-fall, I think it&#039;s an idea looking into. It is positive in this matter for the City and County to work together.

George James
Former Colorado Springs City Councilman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During this time of revenue short-fall, I think it&#8217;s an idea looking into. It is positive in this matter for the City and County to work together.</p>
<p>George James<br />
Former Colorado Springs City Councilman</p>
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		<title>By: S. Immel</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Immel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Commissioner Clark that the Pioneer&#039;s Museum is, &quot;a vital community asset&quot;. It&#039;s representative of our entire region. I commend the the BOCC, city council and staff for their headship with regard to this. This historic landmark could be the catalyst for a model of intergovernmental cooperation.

While many don&#039;t realize it, discussions have progressed regarding joint services between the city and county since Mr. Greene and Ms. Culbreth-Graft took their relative positions. Now, the nay-sayers will respond that talk isn&#039;t action - but the path to action takes planning and that journey begins with first steps.

Citizen groups have considered the concept of the city and county of Colorado Springs and there is general agreement that this isn&#039;t likely. However these same groups have insisted on broader and deeper collaboration and encourage the unification of services, assets and infrastructure where feasible and viable.

That said, El Paso County also continues to face budget challenges so I&#039;m not convinced that shifting ownership from one government budget to another is the answer. Something that comes to mind, however, is the recent discussion of regional parks - joint ventures between the city and county that benefit the entire community. We could categorize the museum as regional parkland and share ownership and responsibility. And... we could STILL house the CVB there as well - seems like a logical place to draw visitors to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Commissioner Clark that the Pioneer&#8217;s Museum is, &#8220;a vital community asset&#8221;. It&#8217;s representative of our entire region. I commend the the BOCC, city council and staff for their headship with regard to this. This historic landmark could be the catalyst for a model of intergovernmental cooperation.</p>
<p>While many don&#8217;t realize it, discussions have progressed regarding joint services between the city and county since Mr. Greene and Ms. Culbreth-Graft took their relative positions. Now, the nay-sayers will respond that talk isn&#8217;t action &#8211; but the path to action takes planning and that journey begins with first steps.</p>
<p>Citizen groups have considered the concept of the city and county of Colorado Springs and there is general agreement that this isn&#8217;t likely. However these same groups have insisted on broader and deeper collaboration and encourage the unification of services, assets and infrastructure where feasible and viable.</p>
<p>That said, El Paso County also continues to face budget challenges so I&#8217;m not convinced that shifting ownership from one government budget to another is the answer. Something that comes to mind, however, is the recent discussion of regional parks &#8211; joint ventures between the city and county that benefit the entire community. We could categorize the museum as regional parkland and share ownership and responsibility. And&#8230; we could STILL house the CVB there as well &#8211; seems like a logical place to draw visitors to.</p>
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		<title>By: RJF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Encouraging joint ventures ....&quot;  Here&#039;s a novel idea how about a Metropolitan Form of government like Mecklenburg County/Charlotte, NC.

Re-write the City Charter and have ALL Tax revenues flow into a single coffer for distribution/services.  It would be more Cost Efficient to combine:
* City/County Public Safety - Law Enforcement
* City/County Road Crews
* City/County Parks
* City/County Administration

Oh that would mean abolishment of City Council - what a loss!  Commissioners with real power &amp; a sense of duty - sorry Amy that leaves you out - would do a better job.

Sorry Penny .... that&#039;s the solution to years of mismanagement.  Too simple ... but don&#039;t complain ... make a change!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Encouraging joint ventures &#8230;.&#8221;  Here&#8217;s a novel idea how about a Metropolitan Form of government like Mecklenburg County/Charlotte, NC.</p>
<p>Re-write the City Charter and have ALL Tax revenues flow into a single coffer for distribution/services.  It would be more Cost Efficient to combine:<br />
* City/County Public Safety &#8211; Law Enforcement<br />
* City/County Road Crews<br />
* City/County Parks<br />
* City/County Administration</p>
<p>Oh that would mean abolishment of City Council &#8211; what a loss!  Commissioners with real power &amp; a sense of duty &#8211; sorry Amy that leaves you out &#8211; would do a better job.</p>
<p>Sorry Penny &#8230;. that&#8217;s the solution to years of mismanagement.  Too simple &#8230; but don&#8217;t complain &#8230; make a change!</p>
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