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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to thank Margaret for sharing her story. I think more people need to be reminded that no matter where you happen to see someone along their path of poverty, they never willingly choose that road.

As for Calvin, you&#039;re neglecting to say one thing about going out and begging for $52K per year: you won&#039;t do it. Don&#039;t pretend that people that find themselves depending on the kindness of others don&#039;t do so at a tremendous cost. Besides living on the streets, often addicted to drugs and alcohol, people in that situation have also given up their fundamental human dignity. If your dignity is for sale at $52K per year, you might actually be surprised at how many opportunities there are to sell it.

Also, if I can assume from your post that you are clearly not the type of person who gives money to the homeless, I don&#039;t see what business it is of yours who the rest of us decide to give ours to. As someone who&#039;s never had the misfortune of having to ask friends, family, or even worse, strangers, for help feeding my family, I&#039;ve also felt a tremendous sense of responsibility, self-accountability, and even pride. I&#039;ll give a President credit or blame for having a broad stroke impact on the country, but nobody gets credit or blame for my personal situation but me, period.

It does seem like you&#039;d be interested in seeing a solution for these people, which I appreciate. All that I ask is that people that read this remember that for every person they see camping by a creek, there is a Margaret that never expected to end up there. For every child you see sitting by the side of the road, there is most likely a parent that cries themselves to sleep at night. If you want to harp on a society that gives too willingly to people that are sometimes all to ready to take, please take it a little easier on the folks that might still have a little too much pride to take a handout from a shelter.

If you lost your job tomorrow and couldn&#039;t find another in enough time, would you tell your kids you&#039;re going on a camping adventure, or tell them you&#039;re no longer able to afford to even have children and go to a homeless shelter? My guess is that the problem isn&#039;t bringing yourself to tell your kids the truth, but rather telling it to yourself.

Don&#039;t check out Margaret. We need you here. This country is going to turn the corner on the grit and gristle of the true American spirit. There will always be people that need to feel like they&#039;re better than someone else, which means that we need the people who&#039;re better than they are all the more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to thank Margaret for sharing her story. I think more people need to be reminded that no matter where you happen to see someone along their path of poverty, they never willingly choose that road.</p>
<p>As for Calvin, you&#8217;re neglecting to say one thing about going out and begging for $52K per year: you won&#8217;t do it. Don&#8217;t pretend that people that find themselves depending on the kindness of others don&#8217;t do so at a tremendous cost. Besides living on the streets, often addicted to drugs and alcohol, people in that situation have also given up their fundamental human dignity. If your dignity is for sale at $52K per year, you might actually be surprised at how many opportunities there are to sell it.</p>
<p>Also, if I can assume from your post that you are clearly not the type of person who gives money to the homeless, I don&#8217;t see what business it is of yours who the rest of us decide to give ours to. As someone who&#8217;s never had the misfortune of having to ask friends, family, or even worse, strangers, for help feeding my family, I&#8217;ve also felt a tremendous sense of responsibility, self-accountability, and even pride. I&#8217;ll give a President credit or blame for having a broad stroke impact on the country, but nobody gets credit or blame for my personal situation but me, period.</p>
<p>It does seem like you&#8217;d be interested in seeing a solution for these people, which I appreciate. All that I ask is that people that read this remember that for every person they see camping by a creek, there is a Margaret that never expected to end up there. For every child you see sitting by the side of the road, there is most likely a parent that cries themselves to sleep at night. If you want to harp on a society that gives too willingly to people that are sometimes all to ready to take, please take it a little easier on the folks that might still have a little too much pride to take a handout from a shelter.</p>
<p>If you lost your job tomorrow and couldn&#8217;t find another in enough time, would you tell your kids you&#8217;re going on a camping adventure, or tell them you&#8217;re no longer able to afford to even have children and go to a homeless shelter? My guess is that the problem isn&#8217;t bringing yourself to tell your kids the truth, but rather telling it to yourself.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t check out Margaret. We need you here. This country is going to turn the corner on the grit and gristle of the true American spirit. There will always be people that need to feel like they&#8217;re better than someone else, which means that we need the people who&#8217;re better than they are all the more.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Gillentine</title>
		<link>http://csbj.com/2010/02/10/business-owners-agree-with-council-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-16954</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Gillentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Margaret, 
Please call 2-1-1. That&#039;s El Paso County&#039;s one-stop hotline for emergency situation like yours. They can direct you to the right groups, such as Homeward Pikes Peak or the Springs Rescue Mission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margaret,<br />
Please call 2-1-1. That&#8217;s El Paso County&#8217;s one-stop hotline for emergency situation like yours. They can direct you to the right groups, such as Homeward Pikes Peak or the Springs Rescue Mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a strong interest in this topic. I am 56, have a debilitating issue, and find that my husband and myself are going to go houseless because of job loss. Unemployment has been a big help, but all of our savings are gone now. I don&#039;t have a clue where we will be going, it is obvious that as a member of the community with our own home we  had value to society... and now we do not. We have to be somewhere we can walk to and from what we need access to. Where do you suggest we go. Shelter is not an option for us as I have a companion dog, and will not be separated from husband or dog. Don&#039;t drink, smoke, or even cuss much, but find that I am ready to check out rather than face March in the streets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a strong interest in this topic. I am 56, have a debilitating issue, and find that my husband and myself are going to go houseless because of job loss. Unemployment has been a big help, but all of our savings are gone now. I don&#8217;t have a clue where we will be going, it is obvious that as a member of the community with our own home we  had value to society&#8230; and now we do not. We have to be somewhere we can walk to and from what we need access to. Where do you suggest we go. Shelter is not an option for us as I have a companion dog, and will not be separated from husband or dog. Don&#8217;t drink, smoke, or even cuss much, but find that I am ready to check out rather than face March in the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also see the camps along the creek. It really up sets me to see nearly 500 people with many childern sleeping out side in the winter when it is 10 degrees below zero. Are these people receiving some kind of assistance like wellfare? What about food stamps? How many of these people have Cell Phones?  If they are getting some assistance maybe several could go together and rent a house. We certainly have enough vacant houses with all of the foreclosuers in El Paso county. I did like the sigh that said                   WELCOME TO OBAMAVILLE.         Hey if I can make 250 dollars a day panhandleing maybe we should all go out and panhandle. That is 1,000 dollars per week and only a 5 day work week, 52,000 dallars per year, Tax free. I like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also see the camps along the creek. It really up sets me to see nearly 500 people with many childern sleeping out side in the winter when it is 10 degrees below zero. Are these people receiving some kind of assistance like wellfare? What about food stamps? How many of these people have Cell Phones?  If they are getting some assistance maybe several could go together and rent a house. We certainly have enough vacant houses with all of the foreclosuers in El Paso county. I did like the sigh that said                   WELCOME TO OBAMAVILLE.         Hey if I can make 250 dollars a day panhandleing maybe we should all go out and panhandle. That is 1,000 dollars per week and only a 5 day work week, 52,000 dallars per year, Tax free. I like that.</p>
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