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		<title>By: Mike Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re-branding effort part deux...  Seems like the City of Colorado Springs and our Top Down, Command and Control &quot;Cabal&quot; of local insiders and string pullers still have not learned their lessons... Remember, we spent $160,000 dollars with Angelo Economics... the Austin, Texas-based economic research firm to do a &quot;study&quot; on Colorado Springs for the 6025 effort.  And after two years and bunch of rubber-chicken meetings that were driven from the &quot;top&quot; we still don&#039;t have much to show for it... Why ? Because only 1,200 surveys were completed by Angelo Economics, (Obviously this was a very small sampling of the total population and not a representative snapshot of the community). And nobody got to see what the surveys said... Only a high-level &quot;summary&quot; was produced.  And the &quot;results&quot; at the end of the process... was an &quot;Implimentation and Execution&quot; plan for 6035 that was slanted to assign 60-70% of the deliverables and action steps back to the EDC...in an attempt to justify more money and support for an organization that was in need of a major overall in the first place.

And it seems that history repeats itself again with this new re-branding effort for &quot;Live it Up&quot; (which works great if you want to emphasize our growing MMJ community, but blows big time when you are trying to create a lasting impression and brand for a proud city).  This is key... only 550 people were involved in the &quot;Empirical Research&quot; for the review of the Live it Up campaign according to Doug Price, president and CEO of the CVB as stated in the online CSBJ article published yesterday, (Nov 16th).  So who were the 550 ?  How many sample logos were &quot;Seen&quot; by the public before this version was selected...  I&#039;m sorry but this logo and tag line is a bush league, first-year-rookie graphics-artist inspired EPIC FAIL.  

I am in total support of the &quot;Re-Rebrand The Springs&quot; effort, as I have seen first hand and have participated directly in a successful local grass roots effort called &quot;DreamCity2020&quot; that reached out to over 3,000 local citizens with a volunteer team of 300 to take a snapshot of what our community would like to see in the year 2020.  And we put ALL OF THE RESULTS ONLINE for the world to see...  (Go here: www dot dreamcity2020 dot org) had to post this way because of Facebook&#039;s aggressive URL conversion feature).  Why do I know this... Because I worked with Leadership Pikes Peak, and the Gazette and a large number of motivated local volunteers to originally develop and to this day continue to host the site online. We proudly took it over from the Gazette Telegraph to make sure it was an independent effort and shows exactly what this community can do when it works together LOCALLY.  And it has not cost the city a dime !

We have immense talent in this community and deserving small businesses who should be receiving contracts for this kind of work... not outside consultants who get insider deals.  How do I know this... I am the Chair of the Colorado Springs Entrepreneurs Group... A local grass roots entrepreneural meetup group with over 350 members that has been quietly growing for the past couple of years that has allowed me to gain insights and perspectives on what the challenges and issues are facing our local small business community, and what we need to do to address our local problems.  Enough is enough.  Time to pull this process back from the EDC and CVB and &quot;crowdsource&quot; this process and let the local small business community speak for itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-branding effort part deux&#8230;  Seems like the City of Colorado Springs and our Top Down, Command and Control &#8220;Cabal&#8221; of local insiders and string pullers still have not learned their lessons&#8230; Remember, we spent $160,000 dollars with Angelo Economics&#8230; the Austin, Texas-based economic research firm to do a &#8220;study&#8221; on Colorado Springs for the 6025 effort.  And after two years and bunch of rubber-chicken meetings that were driven from the &#8220;top&#8221; we still don&#8217;t have much to show for it&#8230; Why ? Because only 1,200 surveys were completed by Angelo Economics, (Obviously this was a very small sampling of the total population and not a representative snapshot of the community). And nobody got to see what the surveys said&#8230; Only a high-level &#8220;summary&#8221; was produced.  And the &#8220;results&#8221; at the end of the process&#8230; was an &#8220;Implimentation and Execution&#8221; plan for 6035 that was slanted to assign 60-70% of the deliverables and action steps back to the EDC&#8230;in an attempt to justify more money and support for an organization that was in need of a major overall in the first place.</p>
<p>And it seems that history repeats itself again with this new re-branding effort for &#8220;Live it Up&#8221; (which works great if you want to emphasize our growing MMJ community, but blows big time when you are trying to create a lasting impression and brand for a proud city).  This is key&#8230; only 550 people were involved in the &#8220;Empirical Research&#8221; for the review of the Live it Up campaign according to Doug Price, president and CEO of the CVB as stated in the online CSBJ article published yesterday, (Nov 16th).  So who were the 550 ?  How many sample logos were &#8220;Seen&#8221; by the public before this version was selected&#8230;  I&#8217;m sorry but this logo and tag line is a bush league, first-year-rookie graphics-artist inspired EPIC FAIL.  </p>
<p>I am in total support of the &#8220;Re-Rebrand The Springs&#8221; effort, as I have seen first hand and have participated directly in a successful local grass roots effort called &#8220;DreamCity2020&#8243; that reached out to over 3,000 local citizens with a volunteer team of 300 to take a snapshot of what our community would like to see in the year 2020.  And we put ALL OF THE RESULTS ONLINE for the world to see&#8230;  (Go here: www dot dreamcity2020 dot org) had to post this way because of Facebook&#8217;s aggressive URL conversion feature).  Why do I know this&#8230; Because I worked with Leadership Pikes Peak, and the Gazette and a large number of motivated local volunteers to originally develop and to this day continue to host the site online. We proudly took it over from the Gazette Telegraph to make sure it was an independent effort and shows exactly what this community can do when it works together LOCALLY.  And it has not cost the city a dime !</p>
<p>We have immense talent in this community and deserving small businesses who should be receiving contracts for this kind of work&#8230; not outside consultants who get insider deals.  How do I know this&#8230; I am the Chair of the Colorado Springs Entrepreneurs Group&#8230; A local grass roots entrepreneural meetup group with over 350 members that has been quietly growing for the past couple of years that has allowed me to gain insights and perspectives on what the challenges and issues are facing our local small business community, and what we need to do to address our local problems.  Enough is enough.  Time to pull this process back from the EDC and CVB and &#8220;crowdsource&#8221; this process and let the local small business community speak for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Hardy</title>
		<link>http://csbj.com/2011/11/16/young-professional-launches-city-re-brand-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-65216</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What money from the Mayor&#039;s office are you talking about?  It&#039;s a known fact that the CVB does not get money from the City or the Mayor.  Majority of the funding for the CVB comes from the LART, which is generated from hotel and rental car tax - the balance of their budget comes from membership dues and other economic drivers that don&#039;t involve taxes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What money from the Mayor&#8217;s office are you talking about?  It&#8217;s a known fact that the CVB does not get money from the City or the Mayor.  Majority of the funding for the CVB comes from the LART, which is generated from hotel and rental car tax &#8211; the balance of their budget comes from membership dues and other economic drivers that don&#8217;t involve taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: John Whitten</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Whitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug Price received money from the Mayor&#039;s office, which, no matter  how anybody spins it, is directly or indirectly tax money. 

So the 550 people included current and FORMER residents?  Plus another 200 people who planned to visit this place?  Former residents and folks who plan on visiting don&#039;t sound like &#039;current residents&#039; to me.  So some percentage of the so-called representative sample didn&#039;t live here after all.........it would be interesting to know if any of these folks currently live in a community that has this same &#039;slogan&#039;....er, sorry,  I mean: &#039;brand&#039; .........

Doug Price may be polite, well spoken, and a gentleman....I have also found him to be evasive and defensive when asked a direct question that he doesn&#039;t care for, like how the CVB spent the money from the mayor&#039;s office.......... 

And Ms. McCurdy is correct:  Thank goodness there is only one Tim Leigh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Price received money from the Mayor&#8217;s office, which, no matter  how anybody spins it, is directly or indirectly tax money. </p>
<p>So the 550 people included current and FORMER residents?  Plus another 200 people who planned to visit this place?  Former residents and folks who plan on visiting don&#8217;t sound like &#8216;current residents&#8217; to me.  So some percentage of the so-called representative sample didn&#8217;t live here after all&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;it would be interesting to know if any of these folks currently live in a community that has this same &#8216;slogan&#8217;&#8230;.er, sorry,  I mean: &#8216;brand&#8217; &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Doug Price may be polite, well spoken, and a gentleman&#8230;.I have also found him to be evasive and defensive when asked a direct question that he doesn&#8217;t care for, like how the CVB spent the money from the mayor&#8217;s office&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>And Ms. McCurdy is correct:  Thank goodness there is only one Tim Leigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Horsfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Horsfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. Just couldn&#039;t agree more. The logo and accompanying video are absolutely AWFUL. Let&#039;s see: people think our city is conservative geezerville. So let&#039;s use as many old, unhealthy, overweight individuals as we can. I&#039;ve shot over a hundred TV spots in my life: this is the worst I&#039;ve ever seen. Poor casting. Horrific videography. STILTED beyond belief. And the Lyda Hill appearance ... huh?????

Love the idea of branding our city. Why don&#039;t you actually get some creatives who know what they&#039;re doing? Are we shooting to promote our city as a retirement village or a place for young families and innovators to reside? Once again the institutions ooze while the real vibrancy of our city gets buried underneath it all. 

Just goes to show you: government will screw just about everything up eventually. 

Solution?Listen to the STRONG feedback. Let the locals help save this. It can and should be done.As an ex VP of Mktg at a large brand, II once spent $50k for logo/name work. The results were terrible. I had to accept the fact I wasted $50k. It happens. I wouldn&#039;t gun this guy down for trying, but if he maintains this, he&#039;s nuts. Accept the fact it didn&#039;t work and use the energy (from our YOUNG guns) to fix it. If not, this will do more damage than good. I firmly believe that. The people in FC, Boulder and Denver will just be laughing at us. 

For now: EPIC FAIL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Just couldn&#8217;t agree more. The logo and accompanying video are absolutely AWFUL. Let&#8217;s see: people think our city is conservative geezerville. So let&#8217;s use as many old, unhealthy, overweight individuals as we can. I&#8217;ve shot over a hundred TV spots in my life: this is the worst I&#8217;ve ever seen. Poor casting. Horrific videography. STILTED beyond belief. And the Lyda Hill appearance &#8230; huh?????</p>
<p>Love the idea of branding our city. Why don&#8217;t you actually get some creatives who know what they&#8217;re doing? Are we shooting to promote our city as a retirement village or a place for young families and innovators to reside? Once again the institutions ooze while the real vibrancy of our city gets buried underneath it all. </p>
<p>Just goes to show you: government will screw just about everything up eventually. </p>
<p>Solution?Listen to the STRONG feedback. Let the locals help save this. It can and should be done.As an ex VP of Mktg at a large brand, II once spent $50k for logo/name work. The results were terrible. I had to accept the fact I wasted $50k. It happens. I wouldn&#8217;t gun this guy down for trying, but if he maintains this, he&#8217;s nuts. Accept the fact it didn&#8217;t work and use the energy (from our YOUNG guns) to fix it. If not, this will do more damage than good. I firmly believe that. The people in FC, Boulder and Denver will just be laughing at us. </p>
<p>For now: EPIC FAIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa McCurdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa McCurdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Is it possible Tim Leigh and Doug Price are brothers? There must be some kind of ‘goofy’ bug in the water downtown…….&quot;

Well, if you knew either of these two personally, you would not ask this question.  There can only be one Tim Leigh (thank goodness) and Doug Price is a polite, very likeable and well spoken gentleman. No relation!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is it possible Tim Leigh and Doug Price are brothers? There must be some kind of ‘goofy’ bug in the water downtown…….&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if you knew either of these two personally, you would not ask this question.  There can only be one Tim Leigh (thank goodness) and Doug Price is a polite, very likeable and well spoken gentleman. No relation!</p>
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		<title>By: Cassie Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassie Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, unless you stayed at a local hotel or rented a car, you&#039;re tax dollars were not used toward the $111,000 used to fund the project.  

Total of over 1,000 people were involved in the entire process including the 550 people who were randomly surveyed.  The 550 people surveyed were 200 current and former residents, 200 people who had visited or plan to visit Colorado Springs and 150 businesses who matched the profile of the businesses recruited to relocate here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, unless you stayed at a local hotel or rented a car, you&#8217;re tax dollars were not used toward the $111,000 used to fund the project.  </p>
<p>Total of over 1,000 people were involved in the entire process including the 550 people who were randomly surveyed.  The 550 people surveyed were 200 current and former residents, 200 people who had visited or plan to visit Colorado Springs and 150 businesses who matched the profile of the businesses recruited to relocate here.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassie Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassie Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Negativity breeds negativity!  Of course you&#039;re going to hear more negative than positive - with every negative response, 10 more jump on the bandwagon.  Is it perfect, no.  But anything is better than what we had, which was zIp!!  It&#039;s also great to see so many organizations and people come together to work on a city/region project.  After last year&#039;s negative national press, this is great stuff!    It&#039;s interesting Tucker Wannamaker KNOWS he can better rebrand the city and the region - venture out of downtown much?

http://www.visitcos.com/brandfaq]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Negativity breeds negativity!  Of course you&#8217;re going to hear more negative than positive &#8211; with every negative response, 10 more jump on the bandwagon.  Is it perfect, no.  But anything is better than what we had, which was zIp!!  It&#8217;s also great to see so many organizations and people come together to work on a city/region project.  After last year&#8217;s negative national press, this is great stuff!    It&#8217;s interesting Tucker Wannamaker KNOWS he can better rebrand the city and the region &#8211; venture out of downtown much?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.visitcos.com/brandfaq" rel="nofollow">http://www.visitcos.com/brandfaq</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Whitten</title>
		<link>http://csbj.com/2011/11/16/young-professional-launches-city-re-brand-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-65200</link>
		<dc:creator>John Whitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you have to give Doug Price credit for one thing:  He got everybody talking about city branding.  (or, is it re-branding?  unbranding?)  Perhaps a good example of &#039;unintended consequences&#039;.

He is &#039;unwaivering&#039; in his support.  The process had &#039;great integrity&#039; .  Of course he&#039;s going to defend this boondoggle:....he just spent $111,000 for, as it now turns out,  a slogan reportedly used by other communities elsewhere. And, yes, the $111,000 was at least in part, from tax dollars from the city, despite the city representative comments to the contrary. 

Did any of the 550 (down from 1,000 previously reported....) people he claims were involved actually live here? 

And, meanwhile Stone Mantel and it&#039;s owner, Dr. Rhetoric, are laughing all the way to the bank.

Is it possible Tim Leigh and Doug Price are brothers?   There must be some kind of &#039;goofy&#039; bug in the water downtown.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you have to give Doug Price credit for one thing:  He got everybody talking about city branding.  (or, is it re-branding?  unbranding?)  Perhaps a good example of &#8216;unintended consequences&#8217;.</p>
<p>He is &#8216;unwaivering&#8217; in his support.  The process had &#8216;great integrity&#8217; .  Of course he&#8217;s going to defend this boondoggle:&#8230;.he just spent $111,000 for, as it now turns out,  a slogan reportedly used by other communities elsewhere. And, yes, the $111,000 was at least in part, from tax dollars from the city, despite the city representative comments to the contrary. </p>
<p>Did any of the 550 (down from 1,000 previously reported&#8230;.) people he claims were involved actually live here? </p>
<p>And, meanwhile Stone Mantel and it&#8217;s owner, Dr. Rhetoric, are laughing all the way to the bank.</p>
<p>Is it possible Tim Leigh and Doug Price are brothers?   There must be some kind of &#8216;goofy&#8217; bug in the water downtown&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Tulien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Tulien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, let&#039;s all stop calling it a re-branding effort! This is a simple marketing campaign that has nothing to do with doing the &#039;due diligence&#039; of brand architecture. The brand definition process starts internally -- not as an external marketing campaign. I am so tired of companies spending outrageous amounts of dollars on external messages that have no relevancy to the actual behavior of the entity! Start walking the brand talk! What processes, metrics, and behaviors are being implemented to live the brand, how are we enlisting, equipping and empowering our communities, businesses and stakeholders to affirm this statement? 

These are questions that are ignored consistently and need to be addressed in order for any sustainable, long-term growth to occur. Geez! What a waste! Give me a break! 

Brands are built through advertising/design agencies -- they are built through CONSISTENT actions, behaviors and experiences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, let&#8217;s all stop calling it a re-branding effort! This is a simple marketing campaign that has nothing to do with doing the &#8216;due diligence&#8217; of brand architecture. The brand definition process starts internally &#8212; not as an external marketing campaign. I am so tired of companies spending outrageous amounts of dollars on external messages that have no relevancy to the actual behavior of the entity! Start walking the brand talk! What processes, metrics, and behaviors are being implemented to live the brand, how are we enlisting, equipping and empowering our communities, businesses and stakeholders to affirm this statement? </p>
<p>These are questions that are ignored consistently and need to be addressed in order for any sustainable, long-term growth to occur. Geez! What a waste! Give me a break! </p>
<p>Brands are built through advertising/design agencies &#8212; they are built through CONSISTENT actions, behaviors and experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Berg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$111,000 to come up with &quot;Live it Up.&quot;  What a monumental waste of money.  We could have had an elementary school student contest come up with something more interesting and better which reflects why Colorado Springs is such a great place to live.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$111,000 to come up with &#8220;Live it Up.&#8221;  What a monumental waste of money.  We could have had an elementary school student contest come up with something more interesting and better which reflects why Colorado Springs is such a great place to live.</p>
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