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	<title>Comments on: The time is now: Other cities already ahead of Springs before next BRAC process</title>
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		<title>By: Joel Binney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Binney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The guy running Fort Carson right now (General Anderson, I believe) has made it known that they are not happy about A64. With all of the other issues they&#039;re battling right now having MJ to deal with on top of all that doesn&#039;t make their lives any easier. Who knows how heavily that will weight on any of the BRAC decisions, but it&#039;s definitely on their radar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy running Fort Carson right now (General Anderson, I believe) has made it known that they are not happy about A64. With all of the other issues they&#8217;re battling right now having MJ to deal with on top of all that doesn&#8217;t make their lives any easier. Who knows how heavily that will weight on any of the BRAC decisions, but it&#8217;s definitely on their radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Sure That We'll Stay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Sure That We'll Stay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom,

I came here for a couple reasons; and determined that this town blew it&#039;s economic opportunities. I don&#039;t have any doubt that your area is declining. If the defense budget impacts Colorado Springs via defense contracting jobs lost, I&#039;ll bet that even Briargate will start decline. The leaders here simply don&#039;t understand or perhaps don&#039;t care that the future will not be like past. Small towns everywhere are struggling, while larger towns thrive. CS is likely going to get much smaller.

But while CS may be declining many other areas of the country are growing and doing well. We will be leaving by March to a state which is poised for strong growth, and it&#039;s not Texas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>I came here for a couple reasons; and determined that this town blew it&#8217;s economic opportunities. I don&#8217;t have any doubt that your area is declining. If the defense budget impacts Colorado Springs via defense contracting jobs lost, I&#8217;ll bet that even Briargate will start decline. The leaders here simply don&#8217;t understand or perhaps don&#8217;t care that the future will not be like past. Small towns everywhere are struggling, while larger towns thrive. CS is likely going to get much smaller.</p>
<p>But while CS may be declining many other areas of the country are growing and doing well. We will be leaving by March to a state which is poised for strong growth, and it&#8217;s not Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Onnimus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Onnimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta love how the solution of some people who seem to act like they believe they&#039;re so forward-thinking, is to leave the area, rather than brainstorming or campaigning to help change it for the better.  Hopefully they let us know when they find that place in the country where everything is perfect, with no theft, gun violence or poverty, that has jobs, and is affordable to live in, hopefully with the same nice mountain ambiance as this city.  Personally, I don&#039;t think such a place exists, which means this person won&#039;t be happy anywhere... sad.  &quot;No easy solutions&quot; doesn&#039;t mean that you should just give up and walk away... that&#039;s a really stupid policy to have.  Oh well.. good riddance to folks who are all &quot;progressive&quot; talk and no actual progressive walk.  

I lived in Georgia for awhile... I&#039;ve seen how BRAC losses can literally KILL a town or city that depends too heavily on the military to support their local economy.  But if you love something, you fight for it.  This area does have its problems, but it&#039;s got a lot going for it.  I agree that we need to broaden our economic base, but in the short term, we need to fight as hard as we can to keep what we&#039;ve got.  That doesn&#039;t stop us from at the same time looking at other strategies to diversify our economic base to protect us from possible negative BRAC outcomes.  The all those old computer tech jobs that used to be here went to Asia, and anybody with half a brain knows that, so we need to look at OTHER areas, maybe consider taking a gamble on innovators and pioneers of new tech instead.  Support research of alternative fuels and energy sources... new vehicles... inventors.  If you don&#039;t want to have to compete with cheap labor and call centers in Asia for the markets that are already out there, you have to look at the people here that are going to break NEW ground and take tech and innovation to the next level, creating NEW markets.  Preferably &quot;greener&quot; ones, that might help break the stranglehold that oil has on our country.  We COULD be the center for a new tech revolution.  Our economy is already stagnant-to-declining, with a high unemployment rate, and now we have BRAC hanging over our heads... so we really don&#039;t have a lot to lose by trying!

Interesting point about amendment 64, too... especially when I recall how much (and how serious!) violent crime was (allegedly) committed last year by DRUNKEN military servicemen.  Cannabis is sooo evil... yeah, right.  Alcohol is worse by orders of magnitude.  I&#039;ve never heard of someone getting high and then beating the tar out of their wife and kids, or stabbing someone 70+ times unless they were doing something else as well as cannabis.  Unfortunately, the government has a nasty track record of heeding the hype and not looking at the actual hard data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love how the solution of some people who seem to act like they believe they&#8217;re so forward-thinking, is to leave the area, rather than brainstorming or campaigning to help change it for the better.  Hopefully they let us know when they find that place in the country where everything is perfect, with no theft, gun violence or poverty, that has jobs, and is affordable to live in, hopefully with the same nice mountain ambiance as this city.  Personally, I don&#8217;t think such a place exists, which means this person won&#8217;t be happy anywhere&#8230; sad.  &#8220;No easy solutions&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean that you should just give up and walk away&#8230; that&#8217;s a really stupid policy to have.  Oh well.. good riddance to folks who are all &#8220;progressive&#8221; talk and no actual progressive walk.  </p>
<p>I lived in Georgia for awhile&#8230; I&#8217;ve seen how BRAC losses can literally KILL a town or city that depends too heavily on the military to support their local economy.  But if you love something, you fight for it.  This area does have its problems, but it&#8217;s got a lot going for it.  I agree that we need to broaden our economic base, but in the short term, we need to fight as hard as we can to keep what we&#8217;ve got.  That doesn&#8217;t stop us from at the same time looking at other strategies to diversify our economic base to protect us from possible negative BRAC outcomes.  The all those old computer tech jobs that used to be here went to Asia, and anybody with half a brain knows that, so we need to look at OTHER areas, maybe consider taking a gamble on innovators and pioneers of new tech instead.  Support research of alternative fuels and energy sources&#8230; new vehicles&#8230; inventors.  If you don&#8217;t want to have to compete with cheap labor and call centers in Asia for the markets that are already out there, you have to look at the people here that are going to break NEW ground and take tech and innovation to the next level, creating NEW markets.  Preferably &#8220;greener&#8221; ones, that might help break the stranglehold that oil has on our country.  We COULD be the center for a new tech revolution.  Our economy is already stagnant-to-declining, with a high unemployment rate, and now we have BRAC hanging over our heads&#8230; so we really don&#8217;t have a lot to lose by trying!</p>
<p>Interesting point about amendment 64, too&#8230; especially when I recall how much (and how serious!) violent crime was (allegedly) committed last year by DRUNKEN military servicemen.  Cannabis is sooo evil&#8230; yeah, right.  Alcohol is worse by orders of magnitude.  I&#8217;ve never heard of someone getting high and then beating the tar out of their wife and kids, or stabbing someone 70+ times unless they were doing something else as well as cannabis.  Unfortunately, the government has a nasty track record of heeding the hype and not looking at the actual hard data.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Wehner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Wehner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting tie-in to the A64 issue.  Not sure this is anywhere near the problem as is alcohol other than in the minds of the county who has been steadfast in advocating no recreational use.

&quot;Relative to other substance use, heavy drinking (i.e., consuming five or more drinks per typical drinking occasion at least once a week) appears to be a particularly persistent problem in the military. Although illicit drug use and cigarette smoking both decreased significantly over the period from 1980 to 2002, heavy alcohol use did not show the same decline. In fact, heavy alcohol use increased significantly from 1998 to 2002 for the first time since 1988 (Bray et al. 2003). In 2002, 27 percent of young adults (i.e., 18- to 25-year-olds) in the military reported heavy drinking, compared with only 8.9 percent of 26- to 55-year-olds (Bray et al. 2003). &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting tie-in to the A64 issue.  Not sure this is anywhere near the problem as is alcohol other than in the minds of the county who has been steadfast in advocating no recreational use.</p>
<p>&#8220;Relative to other substance use, heavy drinking (i.e., consuming five or more drinks per typical drinking occasion at least once a week) appears to be a particularly persistent problem in the military. Although illicit drug use and cigarette smoking both decreased significantly over the period from 1980 to 2002, heavy alcohol use did not show the same decline. In fact, heavy alcohol use increased significantly from 1998 to 2002 for the first time since 1988 (Bray et al. 2003). In 2002, 27 percent of young adults (i.e., 18- to 25-year-olds) in the military reported heavy drinking, compared with only 8.9 percent of 26- to 55-year-olds (Bray et al. 2003). &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for a well-written and informative article.  As an economic and social liberal, living in Colorado Springs, I am troubled.  I lean, of course, toward reducing our military budget.  As my county attempts to keep itself alive through the military, it seems forced into making tax concessions and budget cuts that take away the social services I value.  Despite these efforts, technology is leaving, and I just heard today that our largest business park owner is fleeing.  The jobs that the military creates, tend to be low paying, and while supporting a population, that population tends to be poor and crime ridden.  And the entire community is forced to foot the bill for an ever increasing police force.  Now, with all our eggs in the military basket, we find we might lose the basket.  I am afraid that there is no easy solution here.  Short of direct bribery, we are not going to bring a ton of high tech jobs here all at once.  It seems we will either continue to de-gentrify ourselves as a pure military town, or we will shrink, losing countless non-productive, service industry jobs.  My guess is that our plight is so obvious, we will continue to get significant military spending.  Nevertheless, I don&#039;t see this as solving any problems.  Rather, it limits our prospects for growth.  I hate to say it, but it looks like it is time for me to leave.  I live next to the old Intel building, in what I used to consider a great neighborhood.  In the last two months, ALL of the cars, except mine thankfully , in my apartment&#039;s parking lot have been broken into.  I don&#039;t want to buy a gun, and I won&#039;t.  I will just move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a well-written and informative article.  As an economic and social liberal, living in Colorado Springs, I am troubled.  I lean, of course, toward reducing our military budget.  As my county attempts to keep itself alive through the military, it seems forced into making tax concessions and budget cuts that take away the social services I value.  Despite these efforts, technology is leaving, and I just heard today that our largest business park owner is fleeing.  The jobs that the military creates, tend to be low paying, and while supporting a population, that population tends to be poor and crime ridden.  And the entire community is forced to foot the bill for an ever increasing police force.  Now, with all our eggs in the military basket, we find we might lose the basket.  I am afraid that there is no easy solution here.  Short of direct bribery, we are not going to bring a ton of high tech jobs here all at once.  It seems we will either continue to de-gentrify ourselves as a pure military town, or we will shrink, losing countless non-productive, service industry jobs.  My guess is that our plight is so obvious, we will continue to get significant military spending.  Nevertheless, I don&#8217;t see this as solving any problems.  Rather, it limits our prospects for growth.  I hate to say it, but it looks like it is time for me to leave.  I live next to the old Intel building, in what I used to consider a great neighborhood.  In the last two months, ALL of the cars, except mine thankfully , in my apartment&#8217;s parking lot have been broken into.  I don&#8217;t want to buy a gun, and I won&#8217;t.  I will just move.</p>
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